Neden kapasitörler seri olarak kapasitansı yitirir?


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Şarj edilebilir pillerin aksine, kapasitörlerin seri olarak daha düşük kapasitansları vardır. Neden bu ve her kapağı ayrı olarak şarj edip seri halinde yerleştirdiğimde yine de daha düşük kapasitans olur mu?

Yanıtlar:


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Bunun cevabı kapasitansın ne olduğunu göz önüne almaktan gelir: kapasitörün üzerine bir voltaj (V) koyarsak depolayabileceğimiz dolum bombalarının (C) sayısıdır.

Etki 1: Kondansatörleri seri bağlarsak, kondansatörler arasında voltaj geliştirmeyi zorlaştırırız. Örneğin, seri olarak iki kapasitör 5V kaynağa bağlarsak, her kondansatör sadece yaklaşık 2,5V şarj edebilir. Tek başına bu etkiye göre, şarj (ve dolayısıyla kapasitans) aynı olmalıdır: seri olarak iki kapasitör bağlanır, her biri voltajın yarısına kadar şarj olur, ancak iki olduğundan kapasitemizin iki katına sahibiz: yani, kopma, doğru ? Yanlış!

Etki 2: İki kapasitörün yakın plakalarındaki yükler birbirini iptal eder. Sadece en dıştaki plakalar şarj taşır. Bu etki depolamayı yarıya indirir.

Aşağıdaki diyagramı göz önünde bulundurun. Sağdaki paralel dalda tek bir kapasitör yüklüdür. Şimdi seriye bir tane daha eklersek, soldaki dalı oluşturmak için hayal edin. Kapasitörler arasındaki bağlantı iletken olduğundan, iki plakayı aynı potansiyele getirerek -----, üst kapasitörün alt plakasındaki +++++yükler, alt kapasitörün üst plakasındaki yükleri yok edecektir .

Bu yüzden etkili bir şekilde sadece şarj deposu sağlayan iki plakamız var. Ancak, voltaj yarıya indirildi.

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Bunu anlamanın bir başka yolu da, yüklenmekte olan iki plakanın birbirinden daha uzakta olmasıdır . Boş alanda, eğer plakaları birbirinden uzaklaştırırsak, alan kuvveti azaldığı için kapasite azalır. Seri kapasitörleri bağlayarak, plakları hemen hemen hareket ettiriyoruz. Elbette, kapasitörleri devre kartına daha yakın veya uzağa yerleştirebiliriz, ancak şimdi en üstteki plaka ve en alttaki plakanın arasına bir tane yerine iki boşluk var. Bu kapasitansı azaltır.


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Kondansatörleri yüklü plakalar olarak düşünmek yerine, şarjları kendilerinden geçirilirken voltaj oluşturan cihazlar olarak düşünmeyi seviyorum. İki kapak seri halinde olduğunda, birinden geçen her bir coulomb hepsinden geçer ve her coulomb ile birlikte oluşan voltaj miktarı, kapaklarda oluşan voltajın toplamına eşittir. Böylece, her bir ilave volt için itilebilen kolombomların sayısı azalacaktır.
supercat,

@supercat Masraflar kapasitörler arasında itilmez. Elektronlar, harici bir devre vasıtasıyla plakalardan eklenir veya çıkarılır. Üst plakanın altında toplanan elektronlar, alt plakadaki elektronları uzaklaştırır ve bunun tersi de geçerlidir. İki kondansatör seri halde iken, ortadaki toplam elektron sayısı sabit kalır. Elektronlar elementler boyunca uygulanan gerilime göre kendilerini yeniden dağıtırlar.
Juan

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@Juan: I know that the electrons that enter one plate are not the same electrons that leave the other, but each electron which enters a plate will push an electron out the other, and every electron that leaves a plate will draw an electron into the other. If one views a capacitor as a black box, it will behave as though electrons move through it. Pushing 0.000001 coulombs into one leg of a 1uF cap while pulling 0.000001 coulombs out the other is many orders of magnitude easier than pushing electrons in without taking any out, or vice versa.
supercat

Coulomb-pushing doesn't adequately explain it. A coulomb cannot be in two devices at once. So if we regard it like that, what happens in the end that we have half the overall capacitance, and that is further divided between the two devices that are at half voltage, so each one holds a quarter of the charge.
Kaz

When you say the inner charges 'cancel each other out,' do you mean that the + & - charges spread themselves evenly out between the two inner plates? Why wouldn't they be separated and pulled apart to each outer plate?
T3db0t

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The formula for capacitance is defined as:

C=ϵrϵ0Ad

where

C is the capacitance;
A is the area of overlap of the two plates;
ϵr is the relative static permittivity (sometimes called the dielectric constant) of the material between the plates (for a vacuum, ϵr=1);
ϵ0 is the electric constant (ϵ08.854×1012F m1); and
d is the separation between the plates.

When you place multiple capacitors in series, you are effectively increasing its plate separation. As d goes up, C goes down.

This picture illustrates the equation, assuming ϵ and A remain constant throughout, and the distance of the plates in the series-connected capacitors just adds up:

Capacitors in Series


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You seem to be confusing capacitance and battery capacity. These concepts are somewhat related, so that is understandable.

Battery capacity is how much charge your battery can provide when fully charged until it discharges completely. When a battery is fully charged, its voltage will be high, and this value will remain somewhat stable until its charge is almost over:

discharge curve

If you place two identical batteries in series, the current will go through two batteries instead of one. That will be equivalent to a battery with double the voltage and same capacity as each one of the originals.

Capacitance, however, is not a measure of maximum charge: it measures the charge/voltage ratio in a component. A 2F capacitor will show 1V across it's terminals when charged with 2C. This makes capacity and capacitance uncomparable, since you can always (assuming a undestructible capacitor) put more charge in a capacitor by increasing it's voltage. The maximum charge you can actually get from a capacitor is C*V, where V is the maximum voltage at which you can charge the capacitor.

So when capacitors are building up charge, their voltage is constantly increasing, while in batteries it remains relatively stable. In a system of two identical capacitors in series, then, current will make both capacitors build up voltage. The result is a greater total voltage and, by definition (C = Q/V), a smaller capacitance for the system. However, that does not affect the total charge that can go through the system, as this smaller capacitance can be charged to a higher voltage, since each capacitor only "takes" half the voltage.


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+1 "it measures the charge/voltage ratio in a component." By that definition, two batteries in series would also have only half the capacitance of one. Actually, I'd rather say capacitance measures the derivative of the charge w.r.t. voltage, which means that an idealised battery has always infinite capacitance – which doesn't change if you put two in series (or parallel, for that matter). — Capaciᴛʏ, on the other hand, is merely total charge. That stays the same for serial, doubles for parallel batteries as well as capacitors.
leftaroundabout

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From a different perspective than any of the other answers (at the time of my writing this), consider the problem in the phasor domain. Recall first, the fundamental time domain relationship:

iC=CdvCdt

This defines the ideal capacitor circuit element.

Now, recall that a time derivative becomes multiplication by the complex frequency in the phasor domain, thus:

IC=jωC VC

Series connected components have identical currents so, for two series connected capacitors:

VCeq=VC1+VC2=I1jωC1+I1jωC2=Ijω(1C1+1C2)=I1jωCeq

Where

Ceq=(C1||C2)

So, for series capacitors, capacitance "combines" like the resistance of parallel resistors, i.e., the equivalent capacitance of two series capacitors is less than the smallest individual capacitance.


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I think you almost answered your own question. Imagine two parallel plate capacitors each carrying charge Q and charged to a voltage V. Now, when you connect them in series, the voltage across the combination is 2V but the total charge is Q (the charges on the sides connected together cancel out). Since capacitance is the ratio of Q and V, it is halved.


If the charge on one side of each plate was neutralized, then I would have thought that the voltage across each plate would be halved, since half the charge is gone and V ∝ q. I might attempt an answer in the same vein as yours.
Elliot

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If you attach two capacitors in series, with the bottom plate of the second attached to ground:

C1(V1V2)=Q1C2(V2)=Q2

If you solve these equations, you get:

V1=Q1C1+Q2C2
The net charge where the capacitors connect (bottom plate, top plate) is :
Q1+Q2=0Q1=Q2

The equivalent capacitance is then:

Ceq=11C1+1C2
and so it looks like a capacitor
CeqV1=Q1

If you charge both capacitors before connecting them:

Q1Q2
and you can find the voltage across each of them using the first 2 equations.

If you assume that:

Q1Q2=Q0
where
Q0
is the excess charge when putting the charged capacitors in series, then the equation is:
V1=Q1CeqQ0C2
so that it now looks like a capacitor with a fixed charge. It will still kind of look like a capacitor, but the voltage will be offset.

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Skyler,

I'd love to hear someone else chime in on this. I don't have a good explanation, but I believe efox29's explanation is inadequate (if not wholely incorrect). If it was true, then 'd' would be a hard-known constant that could be computed and used for capacitors of equal size in series. It doesn't matter how far apart you put the capacitors; what matters is the topology of the circuit (the mere fact that they are in series). This holds true, of course, assuming the inductance and capacity of wire connecting them and environment factors are all neglible. The formula for series capacitance is the reciprocal sum of the reciprocal values of the capacitors. Such as this:

Known values C1, C2, and C3 Series total capacitance = C 1/C = 1/C1 + 1/C2 + 1/C3

Etc. for additional capacitors.

efox29's explanation is probably what some folks teach in school, but I think it fails to properly explain the mechanics of what's actually happening.

As far as charging them first and putting in series, just do an experiment yourself. You'll retain and understand the information 4x better if you just test it. To get an idea of their capacity, charge them up and discharge them into another capacitor of known value and measure the voltage of the newly charged capacitor. You can compare that voltage to the measurements from different configurations to find out how things are actually behaving. Then, you'll understand what math formulas work and why.


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I don't know what 'standard' values for Er, A and d are, but lets just use the following. Er=2.6, E0=8.85e-12, A=1 and d = 1. If we use these values, C = 2.30e-11 Farads. If you use the series capacitance equation for two 2.30e-11 Farad capacitors, you get 1.15e-11 Farads (half of the capacitance as expended). All is good. If you use the equation in what I presented, and change d=2, you also get 1.15e-11 Farads. Ie. running caps in series, is the same as increasing their plate separation.
efox29

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I agree with @efox29 - his explanation is perfectly sound
Andy aka

Show how efox's explanation holds for two different capacitors
Scott Seidman

@ScottSeidman, first observe that an equivalent capacitors can be made with uniform area (say 1 square metre) and dieletric (say a vacuum), by varying the plate separation. Perform these substitutions, and then sum the plate separations for the equivalent single capacitor.
sh1

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I think a lot of the explanations here are almost too detailed, in an ELI5 style:

The charge stored when capacitors are in series doesn't actually change, if you take two capacitors charged in parallel and connect them in series they don't suddenly hold less charge, they'll output the same current as before but at twice the voltage.

The "Capacitance" of the new capacitor created by the series connection is lower due to the equation for capacitance involving more than just the charge.


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Charge is Q and the unit is the coulombs (C) Capacitance is C (not F) and the unit is the farad (F).
Transistor

I believe Kaz and efox do a decent job. Your answer is not informative, the punctuation is terrible, and you mix up variables (Q, C) with units (C, F). Reconsider answering an old question with many (and much better) existing answers.
calcium3000

I appreciate your correction on the units however I feel the overlapping use of C is confusing for those arriving here just looking for a simple answer so I have edited my reply to remove the units. They do a decent job for those that want to understand the equations, for those who don't fully understand what Capacitance represents or like myself use the units and names fairly interchangeably I feel a simple explanation added value, I'm not sure what your problem is with my punctuation, a couple of missing full stops?
Triff

If anything Yuriy's answer is probably what mine should have been but I didn't see it till now as it's lost between the other posts,
Triff
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