Oranın iki bağımsız düzgün rasgele değişken arasında dağılımı


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Supppse XX ve YY standart olarak [ 0 , 1 ] 'de eşit olarak dağılmıştır [0,1]ve bağımsızdırlar, Z = Y / X'in PDF dosyası Z=Y/Xnedir?

Bazı olasılık teorisi ders kitabının cevabı

f Z ( Z ) = { 1 / 2 , eğer  0 z 1 1 / ( 2 z 2 ) , eğer  z > 1 0 , aksi halde .

fZ(z)=1/2,1/(2z2),0,if 0z1if z>1otherwise.

Merak ediyorum, simetri ile, ? Yukarıdaki PDF'ye göre durum böyle değil.f Z ( 1 / 2 ) = f Z ( 2 )fZ(1/2)=fZ(2)


XX ve Y'nin alanı nedir Y?
Sobi


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Bunun doğru olmasını neden beklersiniz? Yoğunluk fonksiyonu olasılık bir noktanın mahallede ne kadar sıkı paketlenmiş anlatır ve için açıkça daha zordur ZZ yakın olmak için 22 den 1 / 21/2 (yani örneğin düşünün ZZ daima olabilir 1 / 21/2 ne olursa olsun XX ancak , Z < 2Z<2 olduğunda X > 1 / 2X>1/2 ).
dsaxton


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Bunun bir kopya olduğunu düşünmüyorum, bu soru PDF'yi arıyor, burada PDF var, sadece doğruluğunu soruyorum (belki de oldukça saf).
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Yanıtlar:


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Doğru mantık, bağımsız X , Y U ( 0 , 1 ) , Z = Y ileX,YU(0,1)X ve Z-1=XZ=YXY aynıdağılıma sahiptirve bu nedenle0<z<1 P { YZ1=XY0<z<1 Xz}= P { XYZ}= P { YX1z }FZ(z)= 1 - F Z ( 1z ) CDF'lerle denkleminY

P{YXz}FZ(z)=P{XYz}=P{YX1z}=1FZ(1z)
X sürekli rasgele bir değişkendir ve dolayısıylaP{Za}=P{Z>a}=1-FZ(a). DolayısıylaZ'ninpdf'si fZ(z)=z-2fZ(z-1) 'i,YXP{Za}=P{Z>a}=1FZ(a)Z0 < z < 1. Böylece f Z ( 1
fZ(z)=z2fZ(z1),0<z<1.
2 )=4fZ(2),fZ(1değil)fZ(12)=4fZ(2)2 )=fZ(2) olması gerektiği gibi.fZ(12)=fZ(2)

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Bu dağıtım olan simetrik - Nereden bakarsanız doğru yolu bakarsan.

(Doğru) gözlemlediğiniz simetri, Y / X ve X / Y = 1 / ( Y / X ) 'nin aynı şekilde dağıtılması gerektiğidir. Oranlar ve güçlerle çalışırken, gerçekten pozitif gerçek sayıların çarpım grubu içinde çalışıyorsunuz . Yer değişmez ölçüsü analog d λ = d x üzerine ilave reel sayılar R olan ölçek değişmez ölçü d μ = d x / xY/XX/Y=1/(Y/X)dλ=dxR dμ=dx/x on the multiplicative group RR of positive real numbers. It has these desirable properties:

  1. dμdμ is invariant under the transformation xaxxax for any positive constant aa: dμ(ax)=d(ax)ax=dxx=dμ.

    dμ(ax)=d(ax)ax=dxx=dμ.
  2. dμdμ is covariant under the transformation xxbxxb for nonzero numbers bb: dμ(xb)=d(xb)xb=bxb1dxxb=bdxx=bdμ.

    dμ(xb)=d(xb)xb=bxb1dxxb=bdxx=bdμ.
  3. dμdμ is transformed into dλdλ via the exponential: dμ(ex)=dexex=exdxex=dx=dλ.

    dμ(ex)=dexex=exdxex=dx=dλ.
    Likewise, dλdλ is transformed back to dμdμ via the logarithm.

(3) establishes an isomorphism between the measured groups (R,+,dλ)(R,+,dλ) and (R,,dμ)(R,,dμ). The reflection xxxx on the additive space corresponds to the inversion x1/xx1/x on the multiplicative space, because ex=1/exex=1/ex.

Let's apply these observations by writing the probability element of Z=Y/XZ=Y/X in terms of dμdμ (understanding implicitly that z>0z>0) rather than dλdλ:

fZ(z)dz=gZ(z)dμ=12{1dz=zdμ,if 0z11z2dz=1zdμ,if z>1.

fZ(z)dz=gZ(z)dμ=12{1dz=zdμ,1z2dz=1zdμ,if 0z1if z>1.

That is, the PDF with respect to the invariant measure dμdμ is gZ(z)gZ(z), proportional to zz when 0<z10<z1 and to 1/z1/z when 1z1z, close to what you had hoped.


This is not a mere one-off trick. Understanding the role of dμdμ makes many formulas look simpler and more natural. For instance, the probability element of the Gamma function with parameter kk, xk1exdxxk1exdx becomes xkexdμxkexdμ. It's easier to work with dμdμ than with dλdλ when transforming xx by rescaling, taking powers, or exponentiating.

The idea of an invariant measure on a group is far more general, too, and has applications in that area of statistics where problems exhibit some invariance under groups of transformations (such as changes of units of measure, rotations in higher dimensions, and so on).


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Looks like a very insightful answer. It's a pity I don't understand it at the moment. I will check back later.
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If you think geometrically...

In the XX-YY plane, curves of constant Z=Y/XZ=Y/X are lines through the origin. (Y/XY/X is the slope.) One can read off the value of ZZ from a line through the origin by finding its intersection with the line X=1X=1. (If you've ever studied projective space: here XX is the homogenizing variable, so looking at values on the slice X=1X=1 is a relatively natural thing to do.)

Consider a small interval of ZZs, (a,b)(a,b). This interval can also be discussed on the line X=1X=1 as the line segment from (1,a)(1,a) to (1,b)(1,b). The set of lines through the origin passing through this interval forms a solid triangle in the square (X,Y)U=[0,1]×[0,1](X,Y)U=[0,1]×[0,1], which is the region we're actually interested in. If 0a<b10a<b1, then the area of the triangle is 12(10)(ba)12(10)(ba), so keeping the length of the interval constant and sliding it up and down the line X=1X=1 (but not past 00 or 11), the area is the same, so the probability of picking an (X,Y)(X,Y) in the triangle is constant, so the probability of picking a ZZ in the interval is constant.

However, for b>1b>1, the boundary of the region UU turns away from the line X=1X=1 and the triangle is truncated. If 1a<b1a<b, the projections down lines through the origin from (1,a) and (1,b) to the upper boundary of U are to the points (1/a,1) and (1/b,1). The resulting area of the triangle is 12(1a1b)(10). From this we see the area is not uniform and as we slide (a,b) further and further to the right, the probability of selecting a point in the triangle decreases to zero.

Then the same algebra demonstrated in other answers finishes the problem. In particular, returning to the OP's last question, fZ(1/2) corresponds to a line that reaches X=1, but fZ(2) does not, so the desired symmetry does not hold.


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Just for the record, my intuition was totally wrong. We are talking about density, not probability. The right logic is to check that

k1fZ(z)dz=11/kfZ(z)=12(11k)

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and this is indeed the case.


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Yea the link Distribution of a ratio of uniforms: What is wrong? provides CDF of Z=Y/X. The PDF here is just derivative of the CDF. So the formula is correct. I think your problem lies in the assumption that you think Z is "symmetric" around 1. However this is not true. Intuitively Z should be a skewed distribution, for example it is useful to think when Y is a fixed number between (0,1) and X is a number close to 0, thus the ratio would be going to infinity. So the symmetry of distribution is not true. I hope this help a bit.

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